Cabrero Lopez Jorge

Director · Spanish companies register · 31 companies

Companies :
31 (12 current, 19 former)
Linked companies :
LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL, LA GAVIA LONDRES SL, LA GAVIA ASESORES SL, LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL, LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL, MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL

Summary

Cabrero Lopez Jorge appears in the Spanish commercial register as a director of 31 companies, 12 current and 19 former. Currently Administrador Mancomunado of XCENTRIC INVESTMENTS SL (Madrid) since 9 July 2024, as well as in 11 other companies. XCENTRIC INVESTMENTS SL is based in Villaviciosa de Odón and operates in Actividades de las sociedades holding (CNAE 6420) — Sociedad Limitada (SL), an active company, incorporated on 16 July 2024, share capital of €308,000. The earliest registered mandate dates from 28 September 2012, at PROMOCION Y DESARROLLO INMOBILIARIO 2020 SL; the most recent began on 30 August 2024. The offices held are Apoderado, Representante, Administrador Solidario and Administrador Único. The companies are registered in Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Madrid and Zaragoza. Of these 31 companies, 13 are still active and 18 have been struck off. The boards of these companies also include Solans Solans Alfonso, Gonzalez Garcia Jose Antonio, Ocejo Marin Enrique and 5 others.

Offices held

ApoderadoRepresentanteAdministrador SolidarioAdministrador ÚnicoAdministrador MancomunadoApoderado Mancomunado SolidarioLiquidadorLiquidador Mancomunado

Commercial registries

Santa Cruz de Tenerife · Madrid · Zaragoza

Companies · current (12)

Apoderado since 14/09/2015

Active · Peluquería y otros tratamientos de belleza (CNAE 9602) · Santa Cruz de Tenerife · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · 13 BORME filings

B86548161 · Santa Cruz de Tenerife

Representante since 09/10/2012

Active · Peluquería y otros tratamientos de belleza (CNAE 9602) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 18/09/2012 · capital €70,000 · 20 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA EXPLOTACION DE LOS NEGOCIOS DE PELUQUERIA Y ESTETICA DE LAS PERSONAS.

B86548187 · Madrid

Representante since 08/09/2015

Active · Peluquería y otros tratamientos de belleza (CNAE 9602) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · capital €3,180 · 36 BORME filings

B85559003 · Madrid

Representante since 28/11/2012

Active · Peluquería y otros tratamientos de belleza (CNAE 9602) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 12/11/2012 · capital €3,200 · 21 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA EXPLOTACION DE LOS NEGOCIOS DE PELUQUERIA Y ESTETICA DE LAS PERSONAS, INCLUIDA LA COMPRAVENTA DE PRODUCTOS RELACIONADOS CON DICHAS ACTIVIDADES.

B86588233 · Madrid

Apoderado since 02/10/2012

Active · Peluquería y otros tratamientos de belleza (CNAE 9602) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 14/09/2012 · capital €3,100 · 28 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA EXPLOTACION DE LOS NEGOCIOS DE PELUQUERIA Y ESTETICA DE LAS PERSONAS, INCLUIDA LA COMPRAVENTA DE PRODUCTOS RELACIONADOS CON DICHAS ACTIVIDADES............

B86546371 · Madrid

Administrador Solidario since 10/09/2015

Active · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 02/07/2015 · capital €6,505,997 · 32 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA REALIZACION DE TODO TIPO DE ESTUDIOS ECONOMICOS, FINANCIEROS Y COMERCIALES, ASI COMO INMOBILIARIOS.-

B87327383 · Madrid

Administrador Único since 09/10/2012

Active · Villaviciosa de Odón · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 18/09/2012 · capital €3,100 · 14 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA EXPLOTACION DE LOS NEGOCIOS DE PELUQUERIA Y ESTETICA DE LAS PERSONAS.

B86548153 · Madrid

Representante since 17/07/2014

Active · Otras actividades profesionales, científicas y técnicas n.c.o.p. (CNAE 7490) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · 1 BORME filing

B85443042 · Madrid

Representante since 09/10/2012

Active · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 19/10/2012 · capital €3,100 · 5 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: LA EXPLOTACION DE LOS NEGOCIOS DE PELUQUERIA Y ESTETICA DE LAS PERSONAS.

M546154 · Madrid

Administrador Único since 11/02/2014

Active · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 19/02/2014 · capital €3,010 · 3 BORME filings

Corporate purpose: - La asistencia, gestión, dirección, administración, promoción, intervención y participación en empresas de su creación, constitución o desarrollo, así como la prestación de servicios de asesoramiento y de asistencia técnica que guarden…

B86916939 · Madrid

Administrador Solidario since 10/08/2022

Active · Actividades de las sociedades holding (CNAE 6420) · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 02/08/2022 · capital €129,014 · 4 BORME filings

B10933349 · Madrid

Administrador Mancomunado since 09/07/2024

Active · Actividades de las sociedades holding (CNAE 6420) · Villaviciosa de Odón · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 16/07/2024 · capital €308,000 · 2 BORME filings

B19724764 · Madrid

Companies · former (19)

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 30/08/2024 to 27/08/2026

Struck off · Restaurantes y puestos de comidas (CNAE 5610) · Villaviciosa de Odón · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 06/09/2024 · capital €3,000 · 3 BORME filings

B19933746 · Madrid

Former Representante · from 25/09/2023 to 02/05/2026

Struck off · Restaurantes y puestos de comidas (CNAE 5610) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 18/07/2023 · capital €395,000 · 5 BORME filings

B56217839 · Madrid

Former Representante · from 02/09/2014 to 14/06/2019

Struck off · Restaurantes y puestos de comidas (CNAE 5610) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · 3 BORME filings

B85443083 · Madrid

Former Apoderado · from 16/04/2013 to 26/03/2018

Struck off · Alquiler de maquinaria y equipo de oficina, incluidos ordenadores (CNAE 7733) · Madrid · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 24/04/2013 · capital €3,500 · 11 BORME filings

B86702776 · Madrid

Former Liquidador · from 29/04/2013 to 22/05/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 07/03/2011 · capital €3,000 · 4 BORME filings

B86138971 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 03/12/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · 8 BORME filings

B85180339 · Madrid

Former Apoderado · from 03/10/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 18/10/2012 · capital €3,100 · 9 BORME filings

B86546363 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 03/10/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 16/10/2012 · capital €3,100 · 9 BORME filings

B86546405 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 03/10/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 16/10/2012 · capital €3,100 · 9 BORME filings

B86546397 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 28/11/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 10/12/2012 · capital €3,200 · 8 BORME filings

B86588225 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 28/11/2012 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 10/12/2012 · capital €3,200 · 9 BORME filings

B86588217 · Madrid

Former Apoderado · from 16/04/2013 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 24/04/2013 · capital €3,500 · 8 BORME filings

B86702800 · Madrid

Former Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario · from 16/04/2013 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 24/04/2013 · capital €3,500 · 8 BORME filings

B86702792 · Madrid

Former Apoderado · from 17/04/2013 to 18/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 26/04/2013 · capital €3,500 · 8 BORME filings

B86702818 · Madrid

Former Apoderado · from 16/04/2013 to 17/01/2017

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 24/04/2013 · capital €3,500 · 8 BORME filings

B86702784 · Madrid

Former Administrador Mancomunado · from 11/01/2013 to 16/01/2017

Active · Zaragoza · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 21/01/2013 · capital €4,000 · 13 BORME filings

B86604048 · Zaragoza

Former Liquidador Mancomunado · from 22/10/2012 to 14/10/2015

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 02/11/2012 · capital €600,005 · 3 BORME filings

B86548179 · Madrid

Former Liquidador · from 28/09/2012 to 27/08/2015

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 10/10/2012 · capital €703,100 · 3 BORME filings

B86546439 · Madrid

Former Administrador Solidario · from 06/02/2014 to 20/08/2015

Struck off · Sociedad Limitada (SL) · incorporated 13/02/2014 · capital €3,000 · 2 BORME filings

B86923588 · Madrid

Timeline (108)

  1. 27/08/2026Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of RADICAL CHURROH SL · Madrid
  2. 02/05/2026Ceased as Representante of EARTH MAMA FOOD SL · Madrid
  3. 30/08/2024Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of RADICAL CHURROH SL · Madrid
  4. 09/07/2024Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of XCENTRIC INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  5. 25/09/2023Appointed Representante of EARTH MAMA FOOD SL · Madrid
  6. 24/10/2022Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Santa Cruz de Tenerife
  7. 22/09/2022Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA LONDRES SL · Madrid
  8. 21/09/2022Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES SL · Madrid
  9. 21/09/2022Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  10. 08/09/2022Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  11. 03/09/2022Appointed Administrador Solidario of MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  12. 10/08/2022Appointed Administrador Solidario of PAGARDI INVESTMENT SL · Madrid
  13. 23/10/2018Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES SL · Madrid
  14. 23/10/2018Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  15. 23/10/2018Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA LONDRES SL · Madrid
  16. 23/10/2018Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  17. 18/10/2018Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Santa Cruz de Tenerife
  18. 24/07/2018Ceased as Consejero of MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  19. 26/03/2018Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  20. 10/11/2017Ceased as Apoderado of MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  21. 10/11/2017Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  22. 22/05/2017Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LOTERIA LA GAVIA DE ORO SL · Madrid
  23. 21/03/2017Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  24. 31/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  25. 31/01/2017Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  26. 27/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  27. 27/01/2017Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  28. 19/01/2017Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA BEDLAND SL · Madrid
  29. 19/01/2017Appointed Administrador Único of LA GAVIA BEDLAND SL · Madrid
  30. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of OXIGENO 2007 SL · Madrid
  31. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  32. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES LA GAVIA SL · Madrid
  33. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES ELCHE SL · Madrid
  34. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES ALMERIA SL · Madrid
  35. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  36. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES GRANADA SL · Madrid
  37. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES MATARO SL · Madrid
  38. 18/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES CADIZ SL · Madrid
  39. 17/01/2017Ceased as Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MARBELLA SL · Madrid
  40. 16/01/2017Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of BEDLAND FRANQUICIAS SL · Zaragoza
  41. 22/12/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES ELCHE SL · Madrid
  42. 22/10/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES LA GAVIA SL · Madrid
  43. 20/10/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of OXIGENO 2007 SL · Madrid
  44. 14/10/2015Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of INVERSIONES PALMEIRA 2020 SL · Madrid
  45. 14/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Santa Cruz de Tenerife
  46. 11/09/2015Ceased as Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  47. 11/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  48. 10/09/2015Ceased as Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  49. 10/09/2015Appointed Consejero of MOSEA INVESTMENTS SL · Madrid
  50. 10/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  51. 10/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES ALMERIA SL · Madrid
  52. 10/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  53. 10/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  54. 09/09/2015Ceased as Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  55. 09/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  56. 09/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES GRANADA SL · Madrid
  57. 08/09/2015Ceased as Representante of OXIGENO 2007 SL · Madrid
  58. 08/09/2015Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES SL · Madrid
  59. 08/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES SL · Madrid
  60. 08/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA LONDRES SL · Madrid
  61. 07/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MARBELLA SL · Madrid
  62. 07/09/2015Appointed Apoderado of LA GAVIA ASESORES CADIZ SL · Madrid
  63. 02/09/2015Appointed Apoderado Mancomunado Solidario of LA GAVIA ASESORES MATARO SL · Madrid
  64. 27/08/2015Ceased as Administrador Único of PROMOCION Y DESARROLLO INMOBILIARIO 2020 SL · Madrid
  65. 20/08/2015Ceased as Administrador Solidario of TALENTO UNICO FORMACION Y SELECCION SL · Madrid
  66. 23/07/2015Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ELCHE SL · Madrid
  67. 10/04/2015Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES LA GAVIA SL · Madrid
  68. 02/09/2014Appointed Representante of UNO ITAL HOSTELERA SL · Madrid
  69. 17/07/2014Appointed Representante of CONCEPTO ITAL FUSION SL · Madrid
  70. 13/06/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  71. 06/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Solidario of OXIGENO 2007 SL · Madrid
  72. 06/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  73. 06/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA LONDRES SL · Madrid
  74. 06/05/2014Appointed Representante of OXIGENO 2007 SL · Madrid
  75. 06/05/2014Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  76. 05/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ALMERIA SL · Madrid
  77. 05/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  78. 05/05/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  79. 05/05/2014Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  80. 28/04/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Madrid
  81. 28/04/2014Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Madrid
  82. 27/02/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES CADIZ SL · Madrid
  83. 21/02/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES GRANADA SL · Madrid
  84. 21/02/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MATARO SL · Madrid
  85. 14/02/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MARBELLA SL · Madrid
  86. 14/02/2014Ceased as Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  87. 14/02/2014Appointed Representante of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  88. 11/02/2014Appointed Administrador Único of SOLOUNICO INVERSIONES SL · Madrid
  89. 06/02/2014Appointed Administrador Solidario of TALENTO UNICO FORMACION Y SELECCION SL · Madrid
  90. 29/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LOTERIA LA GAVIA DE ORO SL · Madrid
  91. 17/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES CADIZ SL · Madrid
  92. 16/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MARBELLA SL · Madrid
  93. 16/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES LASERES SL · Madrid
  94. 16/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES GRANADA SL · Madrid
  95. 16/04/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MATARO SL · Madrid
  96. 11/01/2013Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of BEDLAND FRANQUICIAS SL · Zaragoza
  97. 28/11/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ALMERIA SL · Madrid
  98. 28/11/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES SEGOVIA SL · Madrid
  99. 28/11/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES MEDICO SL · Madrid
  100. 22/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of INVERSIONES PALMEIRA 2020 SL · Madrid
  101. 09/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA LONDRES SL · Madrid
  102. 09/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA TENERIFE SL · Madrid
  103. 09/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA BEDLAND SL · Madrid
  104. 03/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ZENIA SL · Madrid
  105. 03/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES LA GAVIA SL · Madrid
  106. 03/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES ELCHE SL · Madrid
  107. 02/10/2012Appointed Administrador Mancomunado of LA GAVIA ASESORES AYALA SL · Madrid
  108. 28/09/2012Appointed Administrador Único of PROMOCION Y DESARROLLO INMOBILIARIO 2020 SL · Madrid

Co-directors (8)

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